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January 21, 2011

Following my posting of the Open Letter from religious scholar James Lewis, if anyone would like to assist in his research into Ex-Scientologists, Independent Scientologists and Freezone, please fill out his survey here:

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/SL33DLP

 

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16 Comments
  1. January 21, 2011 11:51 pm

    I did it!

    Man that was long.

    I have come to the conclusion after doing that survey that I am one very odd person- spiritually – after Scientology!

    • lunamoth permalink
      January 22, 2011 2:02 am

      Me, too! I had trouble with the phrasing of some of the questions – they included only certain possilbe viewpoints on things, such as God, and gave me no choice that was close to my own. And for me, the correct answer was not ” I don’t know.” I guess putting together one of these things if pretty tough. I will be very interested in the findings from all the date Lewis collects from this.

      On another note, Jeff, is there a source of information, either secular or from the church, that would be a reliable indication of how many active members there are of the church of scientology today? In his book, Blown For Good, Mark Headly uses the number of new e-meters that miscavige ordered produced as an indication of what miscavige himself thought that number to be. But is there any place this is actually measured?

    • January 22, 2011 3:24 am

      I did it too.

      I guess if you only answer with the pat multiple choice answers and skip the explanations it’ll probably take only half as long as it took me.

      But I was having too much fun answering 🙂

      Anyway if you got a couple of hours to spare.

      Its well worth it.

      Thanks for posting this Jeff.

    • Quicksilver permalink
      January 22, 2011 4:23 pm

      I did it too .

      I tried to keep it short – I could have written a book if I had the time.

      I emailed James Lewis to offer additional data if he needed it and he was kind enough to get back to me.

      It sounds like he is getting great response!

      • Quicksilver permalink
        January 22, 2011 4:25 pm

        Oh … and Jeff,

        It was great to meet you on New Year’s Eve.

        Hopefully we can get to chat in the near future … maybe at that upcoming BBQ.

        Regards

  2. January 22, 2011 2:56 pm

    Ditto! Thanks Jeff!

    Lewis privately said to me it is up to us, to do our history writing!

    So what you’ve done Jeff, and what Marc Headley, and Amy and John Duignan, and Nancy Many, ALL of that is a start on “us” doing our own history!

    People can communicate to Lewis privately.

    He and Melton have some truly important views and advice.

    It’s been my long hope to somehow “us” who played Scientology officials roles, to do what we couldn’t do when we were in the ranks, which was have truly open communication with outsiders like the NRM scholars (as imperfect and intentionally limited as they are).

    “We” who lived Scientology for decades, those of us articulate enough and interested enough to write our own history, will BE the ones to do the job.

    We know, at this stage, official Scientology is NOT gonna write a fair or detailed history of itself, and due to their group Stockholm Syndrome, they aren’t gonna write their own history, it’d get them in deep trouble. Look what happened to Gerry Armstrong who just wanted to correct LRH’s bio history writeups.

    Thanks Jeff!

    Years ago I had the fantasy hope of Danny Sherman defecting and doing an unvarnished biography of Hubbard, even if it was unpublished until after Danny’s death. Since Danny Sherman has had access to a HELL of a lot of LRH’s private early pre-Scientology journals and writings (the material Gerry Armstrong salvaged from being destroyed, the material that was given to Omar Garrison for the LRH bio that was never fully written nor released).

    Chuck

    • January 23, 2011 4:20 am

      Chuck,

      I’ve always questioned the provenance of Jerry’s records.

      For instance I asked him personally for a handwritten copy of “Affirmations” which he claims exists in the Ol’man’s handwriting only to be sent a poorly typed and typo ridden PDF.

      I also question the veracity Ron’s allegedly purloined 201 records as well that have since been published on the internet with no verification of their authenticity.

      So did Prouty.

      As far as I’m concerned they have the same validity as the famous MJ 12 docs hoax.

      You know the ones that confirmed the existence of aliens working with the USG.

      Really I am not personally interested in supporting another BFM, M or M or the appropriately titled “A Piece of BS” by someone like Kent who has such an obvious bias against “cults” in general and Scientology in particular.

      You of course have every right to do so.

  3. musiclove11 permalink
    January 23, 2011 3:54 pm

    I did it. It felt good. I hope is is helpful to the researcher.

    Music

  4. January 23, 2011 8:51 pm

    I filled it all out (took me an hour) then I pushed the next button on the bottom, and went straight up back to the beginning with nothing filled in. This concerns me. I used my real name
    thanks for all this work.

    • January 24, 2011 1:57 am

      Nancy,

      Sometimes these internet surveys do that sort of thing.

      Especially if you have a minor error or an unreadable character in the field.

      The program will get a case gremlins.

      (This happened to me when I put “K” in place of 000 into field that asked for a numeric value.)

      Not to worry.

      Its probably more like a glitch than anything else.

      Next time you can Download the screen onto your desk top.

      (Macs can do this trick not sure about PCs)

      And fill it in then upload the content when you’re ready.

      Or you can put any long explanations in a WP and cut & paste it into the field which is what he recommends.

      Anyway hope this helps Nan.

      I’d sure hate JL to miss a VIP like you.

      Ml

      RJ

  5. Just Me permalink
    January 24, 2011 2:15 pm

    I can’t get past Mr. Lewis’s Aum Shinrikyo boo-boo. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_R._Lewis_(scholar).

    Just Me

    • January 24, 2011 7:15 pm

      From the wikipedia link above:

      In May 1995, in the early stages of investigations into the sarin gas attack on the Tokyo subway, Lewis, fellow scholar Gordon Melton and religious freedom lawyer Barry Fisher flew to Japan to voice their concern that police behaviour, including mass detentions without charge and the removal of practitioners’ children from the group, might be infringing the civil rights of Aum Shinrikyo members.[3][4] They had travelled to Japan at the invitation and expense of Aum Shinrikyo after they had contacted the group to express concern over developments, and met with officials over a period of three days.[3] While not having been given access to the group’s chemical laboratories, they held press conferences in Japan stating their belief, based on the documentation they had been given, that the group did not have the ability to produce sarin and was being scapegoated.[3][4] Lewis likened the group’s treatment to a Japanese Waco.[4] The scholars’ well-intentioned, but unjustified defence of Aum Shinrikyo led to a crisis of confidence in religious scholarship when the group turned out to have been responsible for the attack after all.[4]

      Wow.

      No wonder he missed the beatings, the false imprisonment, and all the fraud in Scientology – that wasn’t part of his job.

    • Jeff permalink*
      January 24, 2011 7:31 pm

      Exactly. These NRM scholars seem to have a blind spot. They somehow think it is their job to legitimize and defend these “new religious movements” and so they dismiss reports of abuse, violence, even terrorism. It’s a blind spot, made glaringly obvious in the case of Aum Shinrikyo. Similarly, they have not responsibly investigated Scientology’s abuses.

      • Just Me permalink
        January 24, 2011 7:57 pm

        Earlier this morning I wrote a longer, pissier comment about how being a social science ‘scholar’ involves more than ‘counting.’ And then I deleted it.

        I said that being a valid scholar in the social sciences involves observational, qualitative research, which requires the researcher to leave their computer and go observe and tangle with what they’re studying. From a distance things can look quite different than up close. Consider the work of Margaret Mead, Dian Fossey, Konrad Lorenz and Charles Darwin.

        True scholarship requires that competing hypotheses be established and tested. It requires that one apply different treatments to groups of people and compare their behavior to those of control groups to understand the elements at work and their complex and interwoven influences. It requires that one analyze all the data available (of various kinds) to produce verifiable, conclusory, predictive findings that can be replicated.

        One doesn’t perform ‘scholarship’ merely by taking dictation from volunteer respondents and regurgitating it.

        But then, as I said, I deleted it.

        Just Me

  6. Mike Laws permalink
    January 24, 2011 8:31 pm

    Hi Jeff,

    Thanks for this, I filled it in as well. Interesting, some of his questions indicated a deep understanding of the subject, and others were slightly off the mark. Just shows how increadibly complex it is and how difficult for outsiders to completely understand.

    Hope all is good in your world.

  7. Karen#1 permalink
    January 25, 2011 4:34 am

    Thanks for posting these Jeff.
    Useful to have James Lewis’s Email address.
    I will have fun telling him all I know about Heber’s imprisonment, ability to see Alexander 2x or so in 7 years, the beatings and punches on Heber as eyewitnessed by Mike Rinder.
    I need to also send him the letter from Donald Wager, ~~the Elliott Abelson Cohort and cut out attorney ~~ making my son go Legal on me
    I am sending these to you seperately Jeff, along with my response to Wager.

    They sure know how to treat veterans right ! They suck out decades of slave labor, turn parent against child and worry more about covering up a FELONY on a child than getting his incarcerated father out of SP Hall.

    Taliban Scientology !
    Yes, that’s right a 501C3 ~~ a true FREELOADER on the American Public, sucking out public benefits while parasitically gouging for $$$$$$$

    My contempt.

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