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Never Gonna Give You Up

June 23, 2010

On my last trip to LA, I had lunch with an old high school buddy. He told me, with some surprise, that he had been recently contacted by the Church of Scientology.

Some background: my friend took a few courses and did some auditing back in 1968-69. We got into Scientology at the same time. After about a year, he decided it wasn’t for him and left. It took him several years to get off the mailing lists. But after he changed addresses several times and threatened legal, they stopped sending him stuff.

Now, suddenly, 40 years later, they’re baaaaaack.

My friend was surprised, but more than that, he was seriously creeped out.  “How did they find me?” he wondered. He felt like he was being stalked.

Well, it’s all explained in an e-mail from the Pasadena Org, announcing what they laughingly call  “The ARC Project.”

“There is a Brand New Game at Pasadena!! We are the first Class V Org on the planet where the field has demonstrated such willingness and competence on the files project that we have been asked to go one step further….

“It’s called THE ARC PROJECT and you can ALL be part of it!!

“The Purpose is to build full understanding between the Org and everyone in our Central Files. The full understanding does not yet exist for some of the folks who have gotten lost in CF. So we restore the ARC by getting the basics in first – locating each person in CF and confirming their contact info. They can then be helped back onto or further up their Bridge!

“Our hat is to be the detectives and locate the people and confirm that they in fact are at that number or live at that address. Then they can be accurately represented in the Org Addresso and approached effectively by the Org or by industrious volunteers and FSMs!!

“Talk about a game where EVERYONE wins – WHAT FUN!!

“There is a variety of hats you could wear – from detective, to in-putting data in Addresso, to phone calls to confirm we have found the right guy, to pulling and returning our beautiful new CF folders, to helping with food/water and signing up more Volunteers for the project, to name some of them. There is definitely something for EVERYONE!!

“All eyes are on Pasadena and the whole wonderful LA field!! Please come in and help us RIGHT NOW so we can set ANOTHER RECORD in completing the ARC Project!!!! We are Trend Setters – movers and shakers – SO MOVE ON OVER HERE AND LET’S SHAKE IT UP!!

“Please come in NOW and BRING YOUR FRIENDS – let’s show the rest of the planet how it’s done…AGAIN!!!”

Okay, Trend Setters, let me get this straight. It’s a project to find people on the address list who are no longer in touch with the Org, who haven’t been in touch with the Org for many years – in the case of my friend, 40 years. People who have decided, for whatever reason, not to continue with Scientology (or to continue it in another location, possibly even as an independent). People who have made it clear through their actions that they no longer want to be contacted by the Church of Scientology. People who, many of them, have spent considerable time and effort to get OFF the mailing list so the Church is no longer wasting paper and postage on them.

And now, with a lot of effort and “detective” work, the Church is hell-bent on finding these people again, putting them back on the mailing list, and contacting them to sell them more Scientology.


One has to ask, what part of “I’m not interested” don’t they understand?

I know, I know. There are those who would proclaim “everyone on Earth is a Scientologist, they just don’t know it yet.” Or “once a Scientologist, always a Scientologist – they’re just ‘inactive’ or ‘temporarily off the Bridge.” I was guilty of this myself when I was working in Church Marketing. It was well known that the bulk of the Int Addresso was “inactive.” We called them “inactive Scientologists.” It never occurred to me that, in all probability, many of these people were no longer Scientologists at all.

So here we have Project ARC, “to build full understanding between the Org and everyone in our Central Files.”

Which raises the question, what definition of understanding are they using? What definition of ARC are they using?

Because there’s no effort to understand the reality of the people they contact. No, the project is all about enforcing the Church’s understanding on them. The Church understands that they are all still Scientologists. The Church understands that they all have to be gotten “back onto their Bridge.” That’s the Church’s “reality.” To hell with the public person’s reality.

In other words, enforced affinity, enforced reality, enforced communication – and enforced understanding.

I’m reminded of a lonely middle aged man who finds his “little black book” in a trunk in the attic, listing the girls he dated in high school twenty or thirty years ago, and he begins a campaign to call them all and “rekindle the old flame.” Dude, sorry to break it to you, but they’ve all moved on. And there’s a reason they haven’t called you in decades.

If the Church is really serious about increasing their membership numbers, how about dusting off some of those old Planetary Dissemination Campaigns. The ones that actually worked.

But that would be work. That would be hard. It would require staff and money and expertise. It’s much “easier” to browbeat staff (and now, apparently, volunteer public) to call long-neglected mailing lists of people who aren’t interested and give them a ton of enforced reality.

What is it with the Church that they can’t let people go? If you blow the Sea Org, there’s a whole “blow drill” to get you back, Dozens of staff are mobilized, and in some cases PIs are hired to track the person down. When John Brousseau recently blew, they sent 20 Int staff and unknown numbers of PIs to Texas to try to get him back.

And now they’re trying to “recover” anyone who’s ever bought a book or done a course, attempting to mobilize field Scientologists, hat them as “detectives” (PIs?), and get them to search out and find these people.

And if they don’t come back, what will you do? Mobilize field Scientologists to follow them around in black SUVs?

  1. 008 permalink
    June 23, 2010 9:18 pm

    I wonder if public Scientologists even consider this ARC project a bit creepy.

    Thanks for posting Jeff.

  2. SherryMK permalink
    June 23, 2010 9:21 pm never cease to amuse me! I’m seriously having a laughing fit over that photo…you are too too much.

    Hey…maybe it’s a good thing to have the exisitng public and staff contact these “off-lines” people…it will only result in more Scientologists getting the hell out of dodge!

    • Sinar permalink
      June 24, 2010 6:13 am

      Jeff, you are too much! My stomach hurts from laughing at DM rick rolling all those names in CF! These guys are definitely in desperation mode as it seems obvious that the electronic Div 6s don’t work.

  3. Mickey permalink
    June 23, 2010 11:01 pm

    Funny Jeff… Good tip of the hat to the Anons who’s theme song at many, many early protests was indeed the song after which you’ve named this post! Over 36 million viewings!!

    I can share a similar story as your friend. After nearly 20 years I started getting mailings from LA orgs and Flag orgs to an address there’s no way CofS would have in their files as it was used for the specific reason of having personal financial information sent. One of these forwarding services like Mail Boxes Etc. Not even in the same state. No way…..except for the fact they might have had my social from some old commissions paid…… in which case not only was my number being bandied about by unknown “detectives”, but more importantly (and alarmingly) they’d have to access a credit bureau via probably a Scientology owned collection agency (anyone remember Metropolitan?), who would have had to agree to as a private business do the deed for a religious staff “detective”. Woops, might have just “missed a withhold” there on Metropolitan or the like.

    This scenario, or they hired outside skip tracers who do this for a living. I’m thinking there’s something very, very illegal about this. Again, there’s no way they’d have this address that wasn’t residential, but a mailing service. No matter, “we’ll spread it around far and wide to our sister-mailing lists across the country.”

    So, to those to whom this has happened, did you ever give them your social security number? If so, pull the string from there and I think you’ll find at the least, legally-gray area actions if not outright privacy law-breaking going on.

    • Jeff permalink*
      June 24, 2010 12:29 am

      Interesting article on the phenomena of “rickrolling” here.

      • Heather G permalink
        June 24, 2010 1:06 am

        Jeff, Jeff, the better article about rickrolling is here(and you know it).

      • Jeff permalink*
        June 24, 2010 1:15 am

        Of course! Perfect.

  4. Rebecca-Tribecca permalink
    June 24, 2010 1:15 am


    You made me laugh. I really did line charge on this one.
    The Church developed a DO NOT CALL number because of a gigantic amounts of complaints on the sheer bombardment of phone calls

    I felt a sense of relief when I called and registered as DO NOT CALL.
    The number is 1-800-858-5414.

    But, just like nothing in Scientology IS WHAT IT APPEARS to be, Do Not Call, did not mean DO NOT CALL.

    I was besieged and bombarded with calls from Freewinds and Flag for money for BASICS and more and more BASICS. These calls would even occur at midnight and later which was rude and offensive to those who crash early. I did have sympathy for them as these SO members revealed that they would not be allowed or permitted to go home to sleep til they met their quota of Sales.

    Therefore, DM’s savage desire for more bucks ordered the implementation of sleep deprivation to get the $$$$.

    This SLEEP DEPRIVATION continues to come up on the web by many blown SO members.

    Some years back I took a new person to an Org for a Purif. This person had heard of their aggressive marketing so did not give him home address but a PO Box number which he told them was where all mail went. This PO Box went into all their data bases.

    After a while he wrote multiple letters asking off their mailing list and phone calls.
    YEARS after terminating the PO Box and not paying PO BOX fees, that mail box is deluged with mail from the Church from multiple Orgs. They share their mailing list with other Orgs such as Bridge Publications, Freewinds, FSO and so on. The store that let him rent the PO box has now threatened him because of the nuisance deluge of mail coming from C of S when he is not even paying for the PO box. This is YEARS and YEARS later !
    The avalanche is incessant. He cannot get off the mailing lists.

    Imagine needing to go to a Lawyer to write to them to get them to STOP the incessant bombardment of mail and phone calls. But thanks for making me laugh. You nailed it again.

  5. lunamoth permalink
    June 24, 2010 3:06 am

    Well, as long as they keep sending those postage-paid envelopes, I will continue to cut up the grocery store circulars and add that to the original promo, and stuff all of it into their envelopes and put them into the mail for the c of m to pay the return postage on.

    Juvenile? Certainly. But oddly satisfying.


    • Mickey permalink
      June 24, 2010 4:04 am

      luna…. even better… had a friend who taped those paid return envelope(s) to bricks until mailings stopped. It worked! Wasn’t in the FP for the week.

      • lunamoth permalink
        June 24, 2010 4:45 am

        Oh My God – You can DO that???? LOL

      • Fidelio permalink
        June 24, 2010 12:12 pm

        Luna, Mickey,



      • PlainOldThetan permalink
        June 27, 2010 2:40 am

        I’ve tried it to a non CofS business and the post office opened up the package, found my name, and returned it to me for postage unpaid, and misuse of prpaid postage envelope.

        So I’m not sure the brick got where it was going.

        If you tried sending it to the CofS, without any identifying return address, the brick may be languishing in the dead letter office.

        So you may be just harrassing the post office, not the CofS.

        I just take the prepaid postage reply envelope, seal it, and drop it in the mail.

        I find it satisfies the mischief-maker in me.

    • Michael permalink
      August 20, 2010 7:54 am

      Flash back. When I was on staff in the 80’s someone took one of our Business reply envelopes and wrapped it around a hunk of drywall and sent it to us. I was so excited when I went to the post off. and our bill was 10 bucks to get the mail, we must have so much mail back, I thought. Turns out 8$ of it was for that hunk of drywall.

  6. Just Me permalink
    June 24, 2010 3:06 am

    Gee, and all this time, after having moved to two other states and still receiving the occasional piece of mail from various church entities, I thought it was my still-in friends who were tattling on me, giving the church my mailing address.

    Apparently not. Apparently, there were “pros” involved.

    When I hear Marty and Mike talk about their airline travel reservations and records being immediately available to the CoS and their PIs, I realize how criminally insane some church staff are — and how dangerous to themselves they are.

    Just Me

  7. John Doe permalink
    June 24, 2010 4:14 am

    Could the C of S mailing list be declared and “invasive species”?

  8. Genesis permalink
    June 24, 2010 4:16 am

    Thanks Jeff! Your article sent me into screaming fits of laughter, you are soooooo witty!

    So this call/mail ATTACK strategy of theirs is starting up again, huh ????

    Well, one way to STOP them in their tracks…… is to do the following……

    Go to the USPS (US postal service) website, go to forms section, select Form 1500 (Prohibitory Order), print it, fill in the one page questionnaire, sign it, attach the mailing they sent you…. to the form, and mail it to the New York address on the form. If you send it directly to New York, it will be processed faster than if you submit it to your local post office.

    This form is now being used by thousands of people who are fed up with any organization that keeps sending them voluminous junk mail . It was originally intended for pornography, but you get to decide what is obscene or offensive to you, and the postmaster can not refuse to process it.

    The USPS will then issue a Prohibitory Order against the cult, and mail it to them. The Order (which is a Federal Order) prohibits them, or their agents, or their assigns, from contacting you via the mail. If they do, they have violated Federal law.

    You will also receive a letter (from the New York post office) indicating the number of the Prohibitory Order, and instructions on what to do if the offender (I LOVE that word!) mails you anything subsequently. You can notify the postmaster (send proof of mailing with your complaint) and then the USPS can cite them for the violation and fine them lots of $$$$$.


    • lunamoth permalink
      June 24, 2010 4:47 am

      Thank you, Genesis – this data is more valuable than gold (although I plan to use the brick idea for a while first…)!

    • June 24, 2010 2:28 pm

      And you might want to get identity theft protection if they have your social security info and you start hitting back at them.

    • Rebecca-Tribecca permalink
      June 25, 2010 8:24 am

      Genesis ~~

      This is an amazing hat write up of how to stop unwanted and enforced mailings.

      I can only contemplate on how many trees are cut down for useless paper bought and mailed in weekly by CofS.

      I am guessing the number is in 100s of 1000’s that is absolutely discarded in the trash. Prople open their mail over a trash bin these days and spam gets trashed as it comes in, unopened.

      What a huge waste of paper and trees.

      Thanks again for this very helpful coaching.

    • Marta permalink
      June 25, 2010 3:24 pm

      Terrific info and I plan to use this starting immediately. Right after I follow Lunamoth down the mailing-brick road. 🙂

      • Synthia permalink
        June 27, 2010 6:46 am


        Hilarious! You have such a good sense of humor. You too lunamoth. LMAO here.


  9. brendon permalink
    June 24, 2010 6:32 am

    The COS is now in “flailing” mode. The end is near.

  10. War and Peace permalink
    June 24, 2010 8:43 am

    Another excellent post.
    “Never Gonna Give you up” is also dramatized by not letting someone LEAVE staff when they request route-out.

    There is an LRH policy which says those asking to leave should be gone in 48 hours. But in reality:

    The Sea Org drags the departure route-out for as long as a YEAR.
    Some fool at the Flag Land Base (staff) told the St. Pete Times the “Religious Oath” was very serious and it could take a year to release a staff member.

    First of all they coax you and interview you and send you for Qual Debugs and Ethics Debugs and then claim they have no available auditor to do leaving sec checks. I have known of route-outs shown an issue by MAA stating that they were PSYCHO to want to leave the Sea Org, I kid you not. Hence some just FLEE (blow) to avoid the bullshit.

    AT INT base, they are sent to a tougher and tougher gulag for asking to depart.
    Some SO members have had to feign suicidal attempts/thoughts just to escape and are successfully offloaded immediately.

    Almost everyone who wants to depart the SO, does leave, whether bulldog teeth hold on, or not, eventually the departure occurs. The departing SO member feels a lot more animosity against the SO when the route out had endless sec checks, and was sluggish, painful, locked down against will (eg on Freewinds). This “Church” dogmatically and relentlessly creates its own enemies.

    They are incapable of looking inward to review their own conduct.

    The Church sees the Internet as the WHY, sites like this, or Marty or Mike or GOD.
    Ah yes, THE WHY IS GOD.


    Jeff !!! Hurry up and release COUNTERFEIT DREAMS the book. Roll on August 12th::::strumming fingers on the table impatiently::::::

    • Gandiguy permalink
      June 24, 2010 7:12 pm

      Under the totalitarian regime in Russia those that objected to the program were by definition mentally ill as only a person who was mentally ill would be against the people’s paradise.

      • Just Me permalink
        June 24, 2010 11:11 pm

        Gandiguy, this … is … heavy. True and heavy.

        You don’t think like me? You are crazy. Totalitarian to the max.

        If this was a person, instead of a church, the diagnosis would be “abusive psychopath.”

        Just Me

  11. Fidelio permalink
    June 24, 2010 12:22 pm

    there is no way to transmit the ball I am having with that post about the ARC Project!
    To you and all creative posters: Thank YOU!

    Genesis, the history of the remedy (pornography, obscenities, offensivities) is hilarious and the Prohibitory Order against “the offender” is certainly what we know from the “Church” as a Non-Enturbulation Order, right? Wunderbar!

  12. June 24, 2010 2:36 pm

    I’ve been off lines since ’81, even been declared, moved several times. Changed states. A few months ago: rnnnnng, rnnnnnnng, rnnnnnng. Caller id had a number from California. A sense of foreboding flashed through my body. Oh, no. It couldn’t be.

    It was.

    Sweet young thing. Very earnest. Trying to locate me. I asked her if she knew how many people in my city had that name. Hundreds in just this city. She must have made a mistake. All I knew about it was that Tom Çruise acted a bit odd. She got very worried, like the system couldn’t have failed, handed me off to her senior as she was just volunteering. I almost felt bad lying to her as she was so sweet.

    Senior came on. Not too nasty. Persistent. But not too bad. Nope not me. Not interested.

    Less than a week later I got a mailing. And they haven’t stopped. Creepy. And probably illegal how they found me.

    But it costs them money. And recycling is good.

  13. BBSox permalink
    June 24, 2010 5:42 pm


    Similar story here – I left in ’88, moved across the country, changed addresses three times without forwarding addresses. I started getting all kinds of mailings in January of ’08. Ironically, my brother had disconnected from me two weeks prior. Every time I got a mailing, I’d call the number on it and demand to be removed. There would be a pause in the mailings for a month or two, then they’d start again. Some of these I would forward to my brother, and all of them I’d call the number and demand to be removed. I haven’t received any mailings since mid ’09.

    Quite creepy – at first I thought my brother gave up my current address. More likely they used my SS# from the brief time I was on staff. I also got calls in ’07 from one of the LA orgs. Once I mentioned that my brother disconnected from me, they’d back off a little. Since then they haven’t called.


  14. Gandiguy permalink
    June 24, 2010 7:28 pm

    This new evolution is obviously based on LRH’s data on rehabilitating a failed purpose. Of course it is being misapplied as it is producing poo. Good try DM. Next time word clear Source! Or is it PTS type A handling you are attempting? Why not reread the basics and see you are working on too high a gradient! It might help to actually study some of this material yourself or if your Serfacs are getting in the way perhaps it might help for your to get an auditor that has not been trained on this new outtech to give you some sessions. I recommend Objectives and the Grades. Going Clear at some point would be helpful too. Good luck!

    • Michael permalink
      August 20, 2010 8:11 am

      That’s awsome! LOL

  15. earthmother permalink
    June 24, 2010 7:28 pm

    Project ARC…

    Abuse, rebut and coerce.
    Assault, reprimand and command.
    Admonish, rebuke and condemn.
    Ambush, restrain and control.
    Appalling, rapacious and contentious.
    Arcane, ridiculous and contemptible.

    Just a few new definitions that came to mind while reading this.

    I expect to be hearing from my brother who took a personality test back in the 70’s. He warned me that they would never stop. Sadly, I didn’t believe him.

    I cringe to think of the massive amounts of paper that this new project will consume… “beautiful new CF folders” When I worked at a mission, I wondered why we bothered to keep folders on people who made it very clear that they wanted nothing more to do with us. Some were downright hostile. I have a better understanding of why, and I feel bad that some of them will be called, yet again. It’s like ripping a bandaid off and exposing a wound, again and again.

    • PlainOldThetan permalink
      June 27, 2010 2:44 am

      There’s a 1960 HCO PL about procurement letters in which LRH says to ignore people who want off the list. And to ignore people’s spouses saying the spouse wants off the list.

      There’s a 1965 HCO PL that talks about only taking the person off the list if they threaten legal action (police, attorneys).

      Hint, hint.

    • Synthia permalink
      June 27, 2010 6:53 am

      Very clever and I so agree with you here.

  16. Gandiguy permalink
    June 24, 2010 7:34 pm

    One can clearly see the FALSE statistics of how large the church is by defining a Scientologist as anyone who has gotten into central files whether on services currently or not. One never quits. One is only currently inactive!

  17. Tony DePhillips permalink
    June 25, 2010 2:21 am

    Jeff you crack me up !!

    You managed to capture the true essence of DM.


  18. freespirit permalink
    June 25, 2010 9:23 am

    I imagine if they got people who “want off” their mailing lists taken off, they wouldn’t be able to claim all those “millions” of Scientologists!

  19. SuzyQ permalink
    June 25, 2010 6:12 pm

    They started calling & calling & calling. I tried EVERYTHING! Then the perfect words came to me in a dream…

    “David M is a sociopath & LRH was a drug addicted lunatic.” Seemed to have worked for now they are no longer calling…. too bad.

    After I spoke the words all hell broke loose on Anderson 360 – now I would love for them to call again so I could try to “rescue” the caller from their enslavement. Offer them hope of freedom… offer them contact with the real world. Oh well…

    The mail started about the same time….. I have slowed it down a bit…

    You can run but ya can’t hide…. you can hide but they will find… YOU can enjoy the power of being an “outie”.

  20. War and Peace permalink
    June 25, 2010 11:03 pm

    Another tactic to hang on to an unwilling SO member is to portrait life on the outside as a “loony bin” full of degraded beings, “THE WOG WORLD” where the SO member will be homeless and may only be able to flip burgers at a minimal wage at a Mcdonalds.

    Minimum wage indeed. ::::::::::))))))))))

  21. Thought Provoking permalink
    June 26, 2010 3:04 pm

    WOW, your poor friend! I think I would have been creeped out by this as well.

    This reminds me of the old ARC break tours that used to come around where you would call and appoint all you fully paid and partially paid public that weren’t being delivered to over the past 20 year.

    This was always a lot of fun to watch all the entheta public come in, some were completely nuts, we invite them in, spen all this time handling them and then declare them PTS type and not able to receive service. I have never seen a good result come from one of these tours. It sounds like a good idea…but the pay off is way low compared to the amount of entheta put on the org lines.

  22. Quicksilver permalink
    June 26, 2010 9:57 pm

    Jeff …. priceless pic of DM … luv that ‘do’. This is a hilarious thread … coupons, bricks, and ‘flailing’ ahahaha – loved that picture.

    “There is a Brand New Game at Pasadena!! We are the first Class V Org on the planet where the field has demonstrated such willingness and competence on the files project that we have been asked to go one step further….”

    Sheesh, where were these people that demonstrated such willingness when our staff got a call for yet another ‘files project’ … all I remember is groans & staff scattering in every direction. 🙂

    Thanks again Jeff … nothing like a good laugh!

    • lunamoth permalink
      June 27, 2010 2:20 pm

      The files project at Pasadena Org has not only been going on since 2007 (according to SherryMK), but it was still incomplete as of the end of May, when the org MISSED its target date for its big grand opening.

      I was receiving calls as recently as 3 weeks ago, begging for help on this very files project. When a list of names was last published (months ago) by the Pasadena org, commending those who had helped, I knew many of the names on that list and most were either OTC members (on a short leash to dm), or staff at nearby orgs!

      Public demonstration of willingness, my ass.

  23. June 27, 2010 1:51 am

    And from your friends up in the NW, here’s the latest email to the field. Very apropos.

    “There are over 43,000 people who at some point have done some Dn or Scn service or bought a book, whom the org staff cannot contact currently. This is a lot of people who have reached, but whom are not currently moving up the Bridge. We are engaged in an all out crusade to get everyone onto and through the Basics so they are ready for what is coming next. This means we must locate and reconnect them up with the org.

    We–the Seattle field–accomplished an incredible product with our files project being mostly completed. Now, we are taking this a step further and bringing those beautiful files to the ultimate in perfection–usable files with correct contact information which can be utilized to then contact and salvage each individual, getting them moving on the Bridge.

    With our Grand Opening happening in a month, and the need to fill at least 507 seats with public on service every 2-1/2 hr time period, it is imparative that we really set that central files up to be utilized to the hilt getting those seats filled. Further, what Seattle does here sets the pace for the rest of the planet and will be exported out. YOU want to be part of this!!”

    • Mickey permalink
      June 27, 2010 12:12 pm

      “….the need to fill at least 507 seats with public on service every 2-1/2 hr time period”

      Someone help me out here with my math and your interpretation of this amazing statement…. Is my sudden state of stupefaction justified?

      In a 10 hour day (9am-10pm, give or take for meals and the nice rounded off number of 10), that’s four “2-1/2 hr time period(s)” x 507 equaling 2,028 people a day occupying those seats!!!!!! Are they serious in achieving this or trying to disabuse the remaining public of the mission to “clear the planet”???

      I guess Amy, Matt, Marta and friends from the NW Seattle area are all having a much larger impact than anyone could ever have imagined. Sheesh……

      • Kool-aid Nazi permalink
        June 29, 2010 2:21 am

        It’s not you Mickey,

        I had to read that letter/announcement three times …..and it still is gibberish. And no, LRH (you fraud), I don’t have MU’s…….the person who wrote this email obviously has no command over the english language, simple sentence construction, or even basic grammar.

        For Gods sakes, when someone rattles on about “incredible product”, “beautiful files”, and “ultimate perfection” and THEN you realize all they are talking about……..are some old, musty, outdated, manila folders.

        All I can say is……..Oh.My.God.

        And Jeff, keep up the good work, you are incredible!

    • Aeolus permalink
      June 27, 2010 12:58 pm

      Wait! I thought Pasadena was setting the trend for the rest of the planet. Now you tell me it’s Seattle? I’m so confused!

      But I remember back around 1979 my wife and I were visiting friends in Washington, and one evening we took them to a briefing by the LRH biographer who was doing a tour of the country. We learned that LRH liked steak and eggs for breakfast, hated soap made with animal fat, and other fascinating details. Since we donated $5 at the door it counts as a ‘paid service’, and I’ll bet we are 4 of the 43,000 Seattle Org public they are planning to contact and salvage.

      Good luck with that.

  24. June 27, 2010 5:05 pm

    At 6pm CST, the Australian Senate will begin proceedings of the public benefit test for continued tax exempt status of the Church of Scientology in Australia.

    You may watch the proceedings LIVE via webcast here:

  25. Michael permalink
    August 20, 2010 7:01 am

    There may be something to be said for this ARC project. I left the C of S in 1986, never looked back, nor into. I was disenchanted yes, but I had also failed at being a Scientologist. This is what I have now come to discover about myself almost 25 years later.

    I was a staff member at my local org for several years. It was the 80’s, it was a mess. Our CF was a neglected pile of unfiled papers and lost address changes, and of course “Leave me the f–k alones!”. So I see the think. Especially given the importance in the management PL’s of the CF that a project to make it all straight would be something that the C of S would do, even without DM. That would be a real honest step towards an “Ideal Org” as opposed to the total squirrel Ideal Org scenario currently in play. So I get it.

    Now to the personal experience and why of all things this is what I comment about. I have been gone for 25 years, a mild detractor but careful to never be too critical “The Organization is the problem” I might say. I have had the oppurtunity to see the OT 3 materials and declined, I was not willing to take that step into the point of no return (correct, not OT). I was still under the thumb. I was in doubt. Deeply buried for 25 years, but doubt it was.

    My oldest and dearest freind, whom I got into Scn is “blown for good”, not in doubt. No matter what she does she can not get off the mailing list of our old org or any other org. She starts fowarding me these emails from our old org which is going “Ideal Org”.
    I see old freinds. I find myself waxing nostalgic.

    At this time I had also become enthusiastic about facebook. I am now full on restimulated about Scn. I find this old freind on facebook whom I got into Scn 30 years ago. He is still in Scn, this is immediately obvious. He is sad that I am not. Over the next few weeks we had a conversation and I was headed back in. He had arranged a feild auditor and a repair session, but there were logistics. Like time off work and hotels etc. The feild auditor was 200 miles away and I am busy. And I was not going to step foot into an Org.

    And thank God for logistics. At first there was sobbing for my lost eternity and remorse for all the wasted time that could have been spent going up the bridge. But than came back this overwhelming feeling of oppression and memories of what drove me away.

    And than I did it, it only took 25 years. I looked into Scn. And now we have the internet. Google…Scientology.

    And it all started with a harmless CF email to a person who was screaming “Take me off you list!”. And had it not been for timing, some logistics, I would have been “had” a second time around. Except now I’m older and I have credit. Cha ching ##…almost.

    There are some good leads in that old dilapidated and neglected CF. Cash to had. There is the “Why?”.

    Thanks to all those who speak out, Jeff, and save the likes of me from the likes of DM, LRH, and Scn.

  26. April 6, 2011 4:43 am

    Wow… not sure how I missed this article . You might get a kick out of another article I just read tonight that ties in with what you wrote:

    Tour Scientology’s Crazy State-Of-The-Art Printing Centre
    retweet5By Kyle VanHemert on April 6, 2011 at 3:20 AM
    “This is the Scientology International Dissemination and Distribution Printing Center, a mammoth 17,000sqm facility that produces and distributes a staggering amount of church propaganda with state of the art printing technology.

    Just how much can the Dissemination and Distribution Center churn out? One machine prints 55,000 pages of Scientology pamphlets every hour. Another can purportedly print enough posters to hit every train station in every major city on Earth in just the same amount of time. Terrifying! And disgusting. [YouTube]”

    I commented on it by mentioning your article here and this earlier gem by another writer:

    2 examples of where some of those 55 pages/hr are going and why.

    I started getting calls from them in 2008 after having left over 20 years ago. I changed the ph number soon after the relentless calls began because they kept calling even though my children told themI was dead. Then the mail began. I get about 120 pieces of mail per week total from at approximately 7 different orgs or depts across the globe – x 3 because it is sent using 3 different spellings of my name. I have asked to be taken off the lists multiple times, to no avail. I am appalled at the amount of money this nonprofit org is wasting on mail that goes into the garbage.


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