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CNN: Scientology: A History of Violence

March 23, 2010

A press release from CNN:

Scientology: A History of Violence
CNN’s Anderson Cooper 360 ° Series Explores the Church of Scientology’s Leadership

“In a special series beginning Monday, March 29th, CNN’s Anderson Cooper 360° takes a close and revealing look at the leadership of the worldwide church of Scientology. The week-long series, Scientology: A History of Violence, will examine allegations that Scientology leader David Miscavige has for years beaten, kicked and choked top members of the church. These are allegations the church aggressively denies, saying violence from inside came from those making the claim.

“Anderson Cooper will speak with former, high ranking members from the Church’s inner circle, who says the David Miscavige not only carried out, but encouraged the culture of violence at the highest levels of the church management. Cooper will also speak with members who claim extreme hardships, and some say intimidation, the church imposes on anyone who decides to leave and speak out.

“Scientology: A History of Violence will air at 10pm ET on CNN and will also air on CNNInternational. Anderson Cooper 360° airs weeknights on CNN at 10pm ET.”

Check local listings.

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32 Comments
  1. Fellow Traveller permalink
    March 23, 2010 11:05 pm

    Not sure yet this is a CNN press release.

    I have not found it sourced by a known CNN entity on the web.

    Perhaps you have better sources.

  2. VaD permalink
    March 23, 2010 11:07 pm

    “These are allegations the church aggressively denies, saying violence from inside came from those making the claim”.
    – they WILL claim that. Until it becomes insane (to the majority of mankind).

  3. Rebecca-Tribecca permalink
    March 23, 2010 11:15 pm

    Bravo CNN.
    When Time magazine issued “The Cult of Greed and Power” the Church litigated for YEARS. Time Magazine eventually won.

    CNN of Time Warner no longer fear the bullying tactics. of lawsuits.
    All the content must have been run through layers of Lawyers.

    I have rarely seen them air Internationally a domestic program. This time they are airing this globally. Many in Government agencies around the world will see this.

    “Scientology: A History of Violence will air at 10pm ET on CNN and will also air on CNNInternational. Anderson Cooper 360° airs weeknights on CNN at 10pm ET.”

  4. lunamoth. permalink
    March 23, 2010 11:48 pm

    WHAHOOOOOO!!

  5. Ex-RPFer permalink
    March 24, 2010 12:23 am

    I look forward to seeing this and see if they can get any real insight from the church regarding this. Let’s see what lies Tommy tries to spin on this one.
    I will have my popcorn ready!

  6. Fellow Traveller permalink
    March 24, 2010 1:11 am

    no problem now. i see the posting courtesy CD.

    http://news.turner.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=5054

    curious they posted it after what 3 other sites.
    anyways…..

    i will try to record it.

  7. March 24, 2010 1:45 am

    Well, this will certainly be interesting! Jeff, are you one of the ones that will be interviewed in this presentation?

  8. March 24, 2010 2:37 am

    Thanks Jeff,

    This should be interesting.

    Look’s like “must see television” to me!

    Maybe we can’t agree on whether the “spawn of evil” AKA “COB” was his own creation or hatched by some Government agency, but I’m sure we can both agree that his vile acts be exposed to sunlight.

    Are you going to making an appearance yourself?

    If so.

    Look forward to seeing you.

    Ml

    RJ

  9. Natalie permalink
    March 24, 2010 2:43 am

    This should be interesting. We have long since past the point of self correction within the C of S. Unfortunately it is going to take external pressure, and justice for needed change to take place.

    Disconnection, abuses, coerced abortions etc, all things that not only have no place in Scientology, they have no place in humanity. I want nothing more than the C of S to live up to the Aims of Scientology.

    • March 24, 2010 9:18 am

      Natalie,

      “I want nothing more than the C of S to live up to the Aims of Scientology.” Exactly.

      Miscavige seems to think that he can use any means to reach his goals. But the goals of what? The goals of having staff suppressed? That is not Scientology. I think he’s in some kind of blind, unipolar manic behaviour.

      Something good is always something good, no matter if it’s Scientology or not Scientology, and vice versa. The individual act is the act that has to be judged.

      Beating staff is an individual act. And it’s a bad act.

  10. Mickey permalink
    March 24, 2010 4:43 pm

    Cross post here from Marty’s latest blogged submission. A warm up to the bigger expose’.

    http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2010/03/24/scientology-armageddon-by-il-maestro/#comment-16599

  11. LogicHammer permalink
    March 25, 2010 2:22 am

    One of my first experiences with the CofS involved reporting on two staff members (husband and wife) I had found fighting each other on the floor, the wife screaming. I reported it. One of them kept telling me that I didn’t see what I saw, and she got another person to try to tell me I didn’t see what I saw. Both were lying to the church during the investigation that this had happened. Who knows if one or both of them were out-list or whatever, but this is peculiar behavior for a clear and an OT.

    Many years later, when I was at an org getting briefed by a very high-level Sea Org member, this SO member struck and pushed a public person, a volunteer no less, and without missing a beat, continued on with briefing us, while some of us had our jaws agape.

    I guess when you’re flat on getting your face ripped off, the next level of impingement is physical. And hey, physical impingement is OK because if someone goes to the police, they’d be labeled a suppressive. If someone complains to the Ethics Officer, well, playing a slot machine in Vegas may have a more predictable outcome, in spite of our Ethics and Justice Codes.

    Here’s LRH, from an OEC tape, “Attitude and Conduct of Scientology,” 3 Nov 1955;

    (begin fair use quote) “The most valuable asset we have, actually, is our ability to understand, to do the right thing, to be kind, to be decent.

    “Amongst us we have occasionally the feeling like: life requires that we be stern, life requires that we be ornery enough and mean enough to fire him; life requires that we’ve got to tell this preclear the next time we come that she must go, she must leave, she must never darken our door again.

    “Life requires that. We must be stern, we must be mean, we must occasionally be ornery, and we must steel ourselves to take an unkind action. And we feel sometimes there’s something wanting in us, because we refuse to take this unkind action. We feel we are being cowardly, that we are ducking back from our responsibilities. We feel the best way to solve the thing would be to be a little bit mean about it. Get the idea? We should be able to be tough..

    “And so our kind impulse is muffled by the fact that we “know” we had certainly better tell this person off..

    “Well, I hate to unsettle a very stable datum, if it does unsettle it. But the only way anything ever does resolve is by letting your own kind heart reach through. That’s the only way it ever does solve.

    “And it never solves by being tough. And believe me, ladies and gentlemen, here talks a guy who in college days was a top sergeant of the reserve marines, who drilled battalions. And when I tell you that it doesn’t pay to be tough, I’ve had experience.

    “An officer in the war, and I can tell you that at no time, at no time during the entire war, did I ever see toughness win either in the field of discipline, the field of efficiency, or the field of getting a job done. I have never seen it win.

    “There is no substitute for liking people like liking people. There’s no substitute for reality like reality. There’s no substitute for communication like communication with good affinity and good reality. And that’s really close to a static. Do you understand?”

    Since the Church practically has no idea how to treat its members with ARC, it will continue to pull in more media investigations until the Church’s top echelon is replaced with people that actually live and breathe LRH.

  12. Wallflower permalink
    March 25, 2010 4:18 am

    Sorry to be off topic (or maybe not – I’ve just started page 3), but this story is amazing…

    http://kiwianon.com/forums/index.php?topic=503.0

  13. March 25, 2010 8:31 pm

    This is a complete failure for Cooper and for the anti-Scieno movement. Instead of talking about the human trafficking, the illegal wages, the slave labour, the child endangerment, the frauds, and the lies, we’re all reduced to talking about Miscavige 24 hours a day.

    If this is all that criticism has been reduced to, then Scientology is sure to win as soon as another bozo (like Rathbun, who is positioning himself as a pope in exile) takes the reigns. Pathetic.

    • Editor permalink*
      March 25, 2010 9:39 pm

      Francois, like the Church, you are eager to pass judgment on a show you have never seen. Like the Church, you are eager to point out the failings of a show that you have never seen and know nothing about. Like the Church, you are quick to throw around personal insults. Maybe you can enlighten us as to what YOU have personally done to expose the human trafficking, illegal wages, slave labor, child endangerment, fraud and lies you are so concerned about? Why don’t you watch the AC 360 show next week and THEN tell us what you think?

      • March 25, 2010 9:49 pm

        Well, what exactly do you think I should be doing?

      • Editor permalink*
        March 25, 2010 10:11 pm

        Well, let me ask you this – have you ever been a Scientologist? A staff member? A Sea Org Member?

      • March 25, 2010 10:20 pm

        How is that relevant to the subject? You told me, without knowing if I have ever been a Scientologist or not, that I personally should be doing more to expose these crimes. Now that I am asking you how to do that, you start asking for details? Why should that matter at all? EVERYONE should be interested in exposing these crimes, Scientologist, ex-Scientologist, other Scientology critic, or member of the public.

        Then again, American oil corporations hire militias and have African civilians tortured and murdered for protesting their activities, and no one bats an eye, so the public probably wouldn’t be interested in exposing these comparatively less horrific crimes of Scientology… but Scientologist, ex-Scientologist, and other Scientology critics sure should be, regardless of their other positions.

      • Editor permalink*
        March 25, 2010 10:39 pm

        It’s relevant, because you asked what I thought you should do. If you’ve been a Scientologist, a staff member, or a Sea Org Member, then I would encourage you to speak out publicly about the things you have personally experienced. The more people speak out, the more these things – the abuses, fraud, lies, etc. – will be exposed. And as more people speak out, it becomes harder and harder for the Church to credibly claim “it’s all lies.” Many people have been active speaking out, including those who were interviewed by Anderson Cooper. And no, it’s not “all about David Miscavige.” You are welcome to your opinion about the effectiveness and merits of the AC 360 show. But don’t you think you should watch it first, before you pass judgement? And if you think that people are going about it wrong, then I would invite you to show us how it should be done, not by sideline carping, but by personal example.

      • March 25, 2010 10:47 pm

        Of course I know that Scientology criticism is not “all about David Miscavige.” But it is fast becoming so, especially from the growing Indie/FZ side. So basically I’m making a point based on what you yourself said about the show. If you know more about the show, then post it… otherwise we will all draw our own conclusions.

      • Editor permalink*
        March 25, 2010 11:13 pm

        It’s not what I said, it’s what CNN said. Other than that, I don’t know the details of what the show covers. Nor does anyone else, except the people at CNN. Personally I’m going to watch the show THEN give my opinion of it. I don’t see the point of “drawing conclusions” or giving opinions or getting upset or getting one’s knickers twisted BEFORE the thing has even aired. So what say we park this discussion until the series has actually aired?

      • March 25, 2010 11:45 pm

        Actually… Anderson Cooper, on his blog, said this:

        “For the record, I just want to point out that this series is not about the beliefs or activities of the Church of Scientology. It is not about the religion or the vast majority of Scientologists. This series simply has to do with what some former high ranking church officials say went on within the upper management of the church, and what happened to them when they left the church.”

        So… the horse’s mouth just confirmed what I said. The show is NOT ABOUT THE ACTIVITIES OF COS.

      • Editor permalink*
        March 26, 2010 12:19 am

        Interpret it however you want. Say whatever you want. Its all pointless without seeing the actual show. You are commenting on something YOU HAVE NOT SEEN.

      • March 26, 2010 12:27 am

        I’ve never seen a woman get raped but I feel more than justified to say that it’s an unethical, evil action. That’s all I’m gonna say about your ridiculous “experience before you criticize” belief.

      • Editor permalink*
        March 26, 2010 2:42 am

        No, I’m saying watch the SHOW before you criticize the SHOW. Get it? It’s like writing a review on a movie you haven’t seen, or a book you haven’t read. It’s presumptuous, not to say arrogant.

      • March 25, 2010 10:04 pm

        Jeff,

        Good response.

        I’d just like to add that whether there is a vast Government conspiracy or just the Church of Scientology behind him, that Miscavige is the one who has perpetrated the crimes that Mssr Tremblay complains of.

        So one could ask why he would object to their exposure?

  14. Fellow Traveller permalink
    March 25, 2010 11:39 pm

    To cross post, CNN/Mr Anderson has a bit more to say on his blog:

    http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2010/03/25/scientology-a-history-of-violence/

  15. Rebecca-Tribecca permalink
    March 26, 2010 8:32 am

    Francois,

    You really post like a TROLL.

    Troll (Internet)
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    “Do not feed the trolls” and its abbreviation DNFTT redirect here. For the Wikimedia essay, see “What is a troll?”.

    In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response[1] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[2]

  16. VaD permalink
    March 26, 2010 11:19 am

    Jeff

    Well done on getting the person to understand that his emotions are premature to the FACTS those emotions are about.

    Exemplary way of “handling the disaffected” 🙂

    P.S. I guess FT is just starving and can’t wait to get everything finished done and away abot CoM in one step. 🙂

  17. VaD permalink
    March 26, 2010 11:44 am

    Jeff

    Great answeres to FT!

  18. March 30, 2010 4:09 am

    Well, just wrapped up the Monday night CNN broadcast on CoS’s history of violence. Finally, they are out of the gate and, in my opinion, the exCoS execs have instantly took the lead on the believeability scale. Also, based on the excerpts shown from upcoming episodes, it looks like the opposition had some problems with their motor controls (especially the ones that control the tongue) while being interviewed. Then there’s Norm…bringing the Pope into it…

    Before tomorrow’s show there is a discussion (that I just came across this eve) on a podcast that might possibly be of some benefit in following this report that Anderson Cooper is doing. If you want to check it out go to: http://www.tragedyandhope.com/ Look for the Peace Revolution podcast in the center column. It will probably be showing episode #4 but on the player you can scroll down to episode #1 and I would suggest moving to 25:00 and start listening there. What is discussed in the next 8 – 10 minutes is IMO relevant to watching Anderson’s report.

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